The SpaceThis is a charming 'Camping Cabin' in the woods on more than 20 acres of woodlands overlooking a 1 1/2 acre lake. [Some would call it a pond, but it is 10 feet deep with a thermocline, by definition, a lake - more on that below]
This tiny cabin has maximum occupancy of 3 people. There is a queen size mattress in the sleeping loft, and the bench on the first floor has a 6 inch thick foam seat that is the size of a single bed – 80 inches by 27 inches. For 3 adults, the cabin is small. If you are considering more than 2, we have another off the grid cabin that sleeps 4 with 2 queen beds that you might prefer. That one is about 15 miles north from this property. If you contact us, we can tell you how to find it on Airbnb, where it is listed as the "Rustic Cabin on the Poetic Creek," in Catskill, New York.
Note on pricing: For a stay of more than two nights, rate is discounted. If you make an inquiry to ask about this before sending a "booking request" and we can input the discounted rate.
This property has one other residence on the 20 acres, but it cannot be seen from this cabin. [As the crow flies, it is about 400 feet away] The Cabin is insulated and has heat. There is a sleeping loft with a queen size mattress accessed by a ladder. Chloe's Cabin is 8 feet by 10 feet, and 13 feet high, plus a covered porch. The cabin does not having running water inside. There is a water well [see below]. The cabin is not connected to the electric grid - that's what 'camping cabin' refers to. We have installed a small solar electric system. This provides 12 V DC to operate two lamps and an inverter that will give up to 40 watts 115 volt AC power - enough for charging small electronic devices, and to run the water pump. There is a Kevlar canoe for your use. Lake has lots of fish - bass, sunnies and carp. The forest has lots of wildlife, deer, fox, bear, wild turkeys, owls, etc. For cooking there is a 2 burner Coleman camp stove, and outside, a fire place with a grill. It is an idyllic getaway for those who appreciate nature.
About the area: Saugerties is about 3 miles away, a sweet village with numerous antique shops. The center of Woodstock is less than 10 miles from the property. The equestrian 'HITS' is nearby. This is at the edge of the Catskill Mountains, with fishing, hiking, tubing, and other outdoor activities nearby. For the past 25 years, this has been one of our favorite retreats, starting in 2011 we began to share it with like minded people.
In the summer months the lake has watermeal, tiny pinhead size leaves that float on the surface. When it's breezy, the lake surface is clear of it, when it's totally calm the leaves spread out on the lake. When cold weather comes, they're gone. Our favorite times there are October through May. The cold weather makes the water clear, lake-like, in summer, it looks more like a pond.
Below is the outline of a plan we started with in summer 2011, to share it in a way that is reasonably priced without putting too many demands on our time. So far, it has worked out really well, and almost all the more than 100 guests over the few years have enjoyed their stay.
When we started thinking about the possibility of sharing it, the question was, how can we do it? The question we faced was, how to make it reasonable in cost, and at the same time, deal with cleaning and housekeeping that goes with having a rental. Hiring a housekeeper to change sheets and towels right away increases the cost. Our goal was to be able to keep this charming spot, not as a profitable business, but at least have the expenses and taxes covered. After I retired, owning and maintaining a $400,000. property just to camp a few weekends a year became extravagant.
Originally we thought only renting for a week minimum would be practical if we had to hire a housekeeper between every guest. But most initial inquiries were for 2 or 3 days. So, to make that work, we decided to ask guests to bring their own sleeping bags and towels, and that they 'leave it as they found it' This has worked well, it turns out that guests who are interested in this type of retreat seem to be respectful of the property and of the next guest. [Note - so far, every guest but two [out of more than 100] has left the cabin in good shape and clean - this has exceeded our expectations and been gratifying]. Every month or so we check out the cabin to restock supplies and fix deficiencies, if any. We have at the cabin plates, glasses, utensils, toilet paper, paper towels, candles, a Coleman 2 burner propane stove for cooking, and fuel for it. As it is camping, we ask that you bring sleeping bags, a flashlight, drinking water, etc. - what you would for any camping trip. [The copy preceeding was written before we had a well drilled – we use the well water for drinking now.] In front of the cabin there's a fire place with a grill. The woods are full of kindling and dead wood for firewood. there's a camp saw and ax, please only use dead wood, there's plenty on the 20 acres. IN DRY SEASON BE SURE NO COMBUSTIBLES ARE NEAR THE FIRE PIT WHEN YOU MAKE A FIRE, AND DON'T LEAVE AN UNATTENDED FIRE. As of 2015, we now deliver firewood to the cabin. There is a maul for splitting the seasoned firewood.
Octob(PHONE NUMBER HIDDEN) update:
A guest who posted a review of our Sioux Tipi in Woodstock, New York introduced us to a word we didn’t know, writing:
“Wow. All I can say is that this is THE place for anyone wanting the complete Woodstock experience. . . I really enjoyed the privacy and getting to enjoy the scene without distractions. The tipi isn't the most glamorous experience, but it's glamping to the highest compliment. . . Highly, highly recommended for city folk who want to get in touch with their inner Paul Bunyans.”
Looking up “glamping,” we found this definition:
'Going camping, but with glamour. A combination of the two words. It's like regular camping , but with nicer things than usual, being warmer, and more comfortable. . . Satisfying your craving for the outdoors and your penchant for a good meal, nice glass of wine, and a comfortable bed.'
Now “glamorous camping” sounds like an oxymoron, but I suppose it’s possible, e. g: 'Oh Heathcliffe dear, I'm ever so glad we are glamping this weekend. By the way, is the butler done catching our trout?'
I post this here, although the review was for the Sioux tipi, as glamping seems an appropriate adjective for our two off the grid cabins.
Following are notes sent to us by guests who spent a week at the cabin in 2014, with information about getting to the cabin if you don't have a car, and about the [then] new well:
'- For anyone without a car, the bus from NYC to Saugerties is excellent, the Saugerties Stagecoach taxi was only $11 to the cabin. We brought enough food for 7 days in our backpacks, no problem. [Host’s note: If you don't bring all the food you need with you, there' a market one mile away that's shown on the topo map we send]
- We drunk the well water - it was perfect. . .
[Hosts' note – once in a while, we detect a slight sulfur smell in the water]
Although we thought it was clear in the description, they suggested we reiterate 1. to get to the bed one must climb a ladder, so if you are not physically fit, it would be hard, and, 2. there is not a bathroom - it's camping
August 2016: A guest sent us a photo of a nice bass caught in the lake. [He said he returned it to the lake]. They're not so easy to catch, but they live there. Once a year we buy a rod and reel for the cabin, but with inexperienced users, they don't last long, so we can't promise there's one there in working order.
A recent inquiry asked some questions and we copy them and our reply below:
1) Is it safe there? (I mean, are there any strangers and / or any dangerous animals around?)
2) Is the lake swimmable?
3) How far is the lake from the cabin?
It is safe around here. No dangerous animals. We have seen bears a few times on the property, but they are not dangerous. Lots of wildlife, we have seen over the years wild turkey, great blue heron, geese, green heron, ducks, foxes, deer; until a couple of years ago, there was a resident beaver family, the lake has sunnies and bass. You may see our enormous grass carp, nearly 3 feet, we introduced years ago to eat algae - it is vegetarian, so you can't catch it with bait. It is advisable not to leave food or anything outside that would attract bears. In addition to fishing in the lake, we often see people fishing in the nearby reservoir from the bridge [see the topo map for location]. For fishing off the property you'd need a license. Licenses can be purchased online cheaply for 1 day or 7 days. Here's a link: (URL HIDDEN)
> The cabin is about 75 feet from the lake, on a little hill overlooking it.
Is it swimmable? The “swimmabiliy” varies with the time of year. For us it is swimmable, whenever the water is warm enough. We often use flotation devices [little inner tubes or rafts one can buy for a few dollars]. In the fall through spring, up until some time in June or so, it is clear and "lake-like." Sometime starting in June, watermeal grows. Watermeal is a plant like a tiny pin head size leaf. It floats on the surface of the water. When there’s a breeze, it blows to the edge of the lake and the surface is clear of it. If there is no wind, it spreads over the lake. Also, the water gets a greenish tint when the hot weather arrives, not algae or nasty, but more pond like - some people wouldn't choose to swim in it, we do. The lake maintains a thermocline all summer, that is, while the surface water gets warm, the deeper water, a foot or so below the surface, stays cool - having a thermocline is one of the differences that distinguish a lake from a pond. If a body of water is not deep enough, it cannot keep the thermocline. The photo on the website was taken in June, when there was no watermeal on it.
July 2016 update:
A neighbor has chickens, and sometimes the rooster crows. They [and the chickens] will be moving away by the end of October.
Finally, If you'd like to check out all seven of our retreats - three of them are off-the grid like this one, here's how:
To view all our listings: From any of our listings, click on my photo, then, next page you come to, click my photo again. Then on that page, scroll down and click "view all listings" and you'll come to our seven retreats. Interaction with GuestsFor any messages that are time sensitive, text messages and email [to both of us] are more likely to get through sooner than voicemail. Other Things to NoteNote:
As soon as we get notice that you've booked, we send detailed information and attachments, with maps, directions, and key information. If you don’t receive that, it is essential that you let us know so we can get it to you timely, please don't wait till the last minute.
A guest has suggested we caution that getting into the sleeping loft requires climbing a ladder, and, if one is not physically fit, old, or overweight, it could be a problem. I am 72 years old and for me its still easy. Given this is a safety issue, please err on the side of caution -- if in doubt, please do not book this cabin. We request anyone much over 200 pounds not book the cabin because of the loft ladder.